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Monday, April 19, 2010
JWT vs Enthalpy ECU comparison
Finally managed to get my buddies car on the dyno today. While we were
interested in the power it made, we also both finally wanted to see a direct comparison between the two major ECU Rom Tuners that support our SR20 cars, Jim Wolf Technolgy and RS Enthalpy. We have been running the car on both without ANY issue. Both get great MPG, both the tires off in 2nd gear, and both function just as OEM. Dont get me wrong, Standalones are cool and functional, but at the end of the day this is a Street Car -- and gets street parts.
Now before this turns into a mud slinging contest, it is not what I set this out to be. Enthalpy and JWT are BOTH top notch tuners, and both are two excellent sources for out of the box, turn key tunes that make kickass power while remaining livable and economical. I would hesistate for a MOMENT to suggest either of them, as I personally have had great results with both companies.
VIDEO
Car Specs:
HP: 403 WHP
Torque: 323 Ft Lbs
Engine Specs:
SR20DET, 8.5:1 Compression, 86mm (stock bore/compression)
Built bottom end with CP Pistons, Stock Rods, Built by Cody Ace)
GT2871r .64 (T2 exhaust housing)
Jim Wolf Technology S3 Cams
Jim Wolf Technology ECU
Freddy Intake Manifold
Extrude Hone and Swained Exhaust Manifold, and Turbo
External Wastegate
3" exhaust
3" Inlet with Z32 MAF
72lb MSD's
(and all other associated parts)
Traps 120mph as well
I backed the car on, I got the computer ready to log, and we unlocked the brake. Ran the Enthalpy ECU at 10 psi, and then at 20 psi. Turned it off. Changed ECU's. And ran it again. Same conditions. The results are close, but it's evident that in this particular case the JWT ecu wins. Dyno RUn Files available upon PM, as well as Log Files from Datascan.
Results:
20psi
AFR: 11.8 to 12.0
Enthalpy: 381 HP / 310 Ft lbs
JWT: 400 HP/323 ft lbs
10psi:
AFR: 12.5ish for both
Enthalpy: 274 HP / 220 ft lbs
JWT: 279 HP/223 ft lbs
It's evident that at 10 psi, the differences are negligable, probably credited to the dyno itself. The results remain the same across all correction factors as well, but we like uncorrected to give a base number. STD showed the highest figures.
At 20 psi however, we were really surprised. The JWT ECU made nearly 20 more hp peak, and had a stronger powerband throughot. We were VERY happy with this. It's a damn near copy of my s14's setup (minus a few parts) and (go figure) the car makes similar power.
Graphs:
10 psi run on top, 20 psi run on bottom (Enthalpy Blue, JWT Red)
10psi
20psi
"Not bad" for a Junkyard Car
I'm not sure about you guys, but this car certainly doesn't look like
its' got anymore than about 100 whp lol. I love it.
All in all, it was a nice day...one, because yet again I've got a 2871r car that I built at 400 whp level, and secondly, we finally got to test both of our ECU's out to see which one worked best right out of the box. Now with this said, I would love to send Martin and Clark the log files respectively to get a 'net reflash' to compare them again, as it would be interesting to see what there is 'left' in both tunes. We all can agree that an off the shelf tune from either is going to be conservative, just for safety sake...nobody wants the reputation of making HP, but melting pistons ya know?
FWIW: JWT S3 cams are the single best cams you can buy for T2/stock manifold cars. Most power, best graphs, and cheapest (as you don't need valvesprings). I don't care what anyone says, until I get a car that dynos differently, I'm going to stick by my guns.
As before, Dyno Run files and NissanDataScan Run files available via PM.
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
Part 6 v1- Suspension Obsession
Well, it's on the home stretch now. The lower housings, courtesy of Richard F, have finally arrived. While this would seem to imply that the car would be off it's golden jackstands...well, half true. I learned an important lesson today, and that is 'make sure you inspect everything you order online'. While I did go and check out the first two 'kits' from Ground Control, I neglected to look at the last 2...and go figure, the coilover tubes and adjustment nuts are wrong. F ME. Well, if it wasn't for bad luck at times, I wouldn't have any at all right?
Aside from that minor setback (Monday they will be there), everything else is buttoned up, and ready to go. I'll be aligning the car Monday as well, just to keep it all nice (lets hope weather is nice nice).
So here is the last part (well, first half of the last part) of the puzzle that is, the 240 suspension. Is it a lot of work to do this all? Yes. Are off the shelf coilovers available? Yes. BUT this is darn near the perfect setup for our cars, this side of completely custom everything. I'll live with this. Infinite adjustability, rebuild ability, and custom built. Screw JDM crap.
Custom Lower Housings, for the 8611's in the Front,
...and 8610's in the rear
Upper plates with the correct inner bushings that came with the Konis. Let it be known, that T3 plates also come with the correct inner bushing, but the Koni hardware had a slightly larger main shaft part, as well as a top.
And the Tein Pillowball mounts, with brass bushing
And lastly, the Ground Control setup
Tube and Spring:
With Vorshalg TopHat
With T3 plate
Here is the 8611 in the front housing, with gland nut secure and coilover tube. Remember to loctite the gland nut.
And finally here is the assembled front product. Again, use a small dab of loctite on the upper nut as well.
I'll have the back complete come Monday, and then it should all be on the ground and read to go. Lets hope I have no issues, as I can't wait!
Tuesday, March 16, 2010
Part 5- Suspension Obsession
Another short update:
With all things track related, heat retention, and heat dissipation are two major concerns for any car. Keep to much in, and face nuclear meltdown in the engine bay - release to much and while you keep things cool, you don't keep the turbo lit.
The master cylinder on any 240 is 'in the wat' -- that is, its' always near direct turbocharger heat, and as a result, always fighting the high temps. To help combat that, I decided a 'shield' was a worthwhile mod to create, and to implement. I also chose to wrap some of the basic parts in gold leaf reflective tape to help regulate heat control.
So without ado, here are some pics of the mock up, and finished result
Mock up
Test fitting, and after sandblasting:
After media blasting, and riveting
I will be spraying the backside with BBQ paint, and coating the front with more gold left. Lets hope this keeps brake fluid temps under control!
Edited on: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:38 AM
Categories: codys 240, Installations
Monday, March 15, 2010
Part 4 - Suspension Obsession
In 240-land, a popular upgrade for the rear suspension involves swapping out the crusty heavy cast iron rear 'uprights' (essentially the hub assembly, where all the suspension points bolt too) for the nice and light cast aluminum ones from a z32 chassis 300zx. At nearly 8 lbs a side of unsprung weight, it's a decent 'upgrade', that typically will only set you back 40-50 dollars shipped for both.
For s13's, this is a bolt in affair -- everything lines up as it should, no binding amongst any parts and even the 4 lug hub bolts into the upright (if the owner doesn't want to swap to 5 lug right away). You will need to swap the lower coilover/shock mount to a for style, but that is easy-peezy. All is fine and dandy here, however the same isn't 100% true for s14s. While all the points remain the same, where the biggest 'issue' lays is how the rear strut actually lines up with the upright. Being that their line isn't exactly on, the strut will constantly be fighting against itself in relation to the mounting.
TO combat this issue, Zilvia and NRR member Def (jacob) has released his "DefWorks" rear upright spherical bearing. This allows the owner to swap the stock bushing for a superior mounting solution, that will actually allow s14 owners to have a 'kosher' rear setup, that is, without worry of bending/busting a rear coilover.
Instalation is very easy: Just press out the factory junk, and press these in. YOu can use a traditional press for this, or a ball joint tool. Being that I had already swapped this out for ES poly bushings (as these weren't available at the point in time) I opted to use the ball joint tool as everything was already bolted up. Press the center bushing out first, and then follow my pressing the ES bushing itself. If the stock stuff is in, just press out the entire OE sleeve as a unit. You may need some heat to help with this process if pressing the factory parts out. Install is reverse of the removal, just press the new pieces back in, and you're all done. Winner winner, chicken dinner.
So here are some pics of the bearings unassembled, and then in the car. Super simple piece, but functional as well. Win win for me.
Edited on: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:47 AM
Categories: codys 240, Installations
Thursday, March 04, 2010
Part 3 - Suspension Obsession
Call me naive, but I can say I was officially bitten by the FFF bug. I typically look at everything on forums as an example; that is, not as a 'how to' but more of an informal source of information that I can use towards fixing/improving my car. I don't mean to sound any more arrogant that I usually am, but I'm pretty adept around cars -- I can essentially do anything (this side of rebuilding transmissions, screw them) and everything I want with my car.
So while looking for a way to improve the structural rigidity of my cheap japanese car's tinker toy subframe, I came across a thread about foam filling it. Now, I've seen such things before, typically in regard to rockers, or inner unibody voids, but never a subframe. Much like any car of this configuration, the subframe is a nicely formed/stamped piece of metal that is hollow. Regardless of it being firmly mounted to the chassis, it is something that can certainly bend under stress, and at the same time transmit noise from the differential into the cabin. Because of these two issues, the Foam especially appealed to me as it would fill the subframe void, while at the same time increasing surface area, which would help absorb sound/vibration. Double win: Stiff Subframe and I can crank Celine Dion without hearing the driveline of the car.
So I read a few threads, and find out that the US Composites Structural Foam kit, in 8:1 variety was the best bet. The Coast Guard requires 2:1 for their boats, so this 8:1 would be more that sufficient for my subframe (but then again, I don't' plan on taking it swimming). By the 'members' comments it would become very hard, but remain plyable to a degree. This seemed great as it would add a great deal of rigitdy (8 to 1) while not becoming like burnt noodles on the bottom a lasagna pan. I order their 16 lb kit, of 8:1 stiffness and went to town.
Now, back to the FFF aspect of things. They all wrote that it was 'easy' and 'no issues'...which was 9/10 true. What they forgot to mention was the 'mess' that this stuff created. Certainly i knew there would be a mess - something that never/does not bother me. BUT in the same regard, i was not expecting anything like the mess that expanding foam creates. After completing the foam project, I will say the following
1. Make sure you ahve some sort of sheeting down to keep the garage clean. I used big pallett sheets. this stuff makes a mess
2. Ensure you have a heat source on the foam. It says it 'works best' at 80 degrees - they don't like. I had the garage at 70 degrees, and until I directed the kero bullet heater onto it, it didnt' expand as it should
3. Don't make more than you need, as it will foam out and all over. If you only need a little bit, make less. Any 'extra' is just wasted.
All in all, it was a great learning experience, and a worthwhile mod. I suggest anyone to do this, if they have sub frame out of the car. It's a no brainer. Rigidity, sound deadening, and cheap - perfect combo.
The Kit I used
It finds itself eveywhere!
Slight Mess
Looks good here, but look at the joint - amazing stuff!
Luckily it 'breaks off' the subframe easily. Thankfully.
All done, and re undercoated
Thank you cargo edition Maxima!
Edited on: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:39 AM
Categories: codys 240, Installations
Monday, March 01, 2010
Part 2 - Suspension Obsession
Well, all is coming back together slowly but surely. The joys of waiting for parts right? Somedays it would be easier to have started with a Fox Body ya know? Oh well, live and Learn.
Assuming everything comes in, I should have this puppy on the ground (well, suspension done) by end of month. Yessss! (Manifold’s back, Housing getting welded, and waiting on some other stuff yet too)
So along with the suspension fun
Traction Arm Cut Down
The factory arms are 8.25 center to center, but after inspection I realized that these FleaBay arms were 8.5 center to center. I ended up removing .75 of an inch off, that way I have some play inwards yet too. I used a simple die grinder with a hose clamp around the shaft to keep me straight. The inner adjustments are LONG so if you hack an inch off, no worries, as you could still make 9” damn near total length.
The ladies seem to like 8” long as the total length, so I figured the same for m for my traction arms too. This should really help out my toe curves under compression.
Modified Godspeed FLCA
Nothing like making gold out of turds right? Well being that I’m to cheap (aka: can’t find the balls in me) to buy some of the 500/600 dollar arms out there (I’m not JDM tyte, whatever), I decided to follow user Def’s Guide on Nissan Road Racing Forums
Pressed the stock junk out
QA1 Left, Ebay Right (rod end)
QA1 Right, Ebay Left (spherical bearing)
Refreshment Time. 2008 Weyerbacher Blasphemy in my Shawnee Craft Glass
Here is the hardware needed. Forgot to take images of the spacer shims though
L to R: Upper Locking Nut, .5” spacer (for roll center correction), Godspeed Spacer (need to drill to .75” ID and then face down to roughly .85 in total height, and then the 3/4” bolt for the ball joint itself.
Fully Contracted, the arms are a little shorter. Not bad. This can allow for more ‘fender room’ potentially.
All done! Don’t mind the chipped paint, I spray bombed them again. MITB quality here. At this point it’s a nice piece
Whew. More to come shortly with the foam filled subframe and total install pictures.
Edited on: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:34 AM
Categories: codys 240, Installations
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
Suspension Fascination Part 1 (of many)
The 240 (s14) is a fantastic chassis, that really has drastic improvements from it's s13 brother. In the same respect however, Nissan is cheap, and was able to combine parts from all of their RWD machines (300zx, Q45, J30) to essentially make a 'parts bin' rear suspension with the best bits they had available.
This winter I've decided to tackle the aging suspension, and finally address some of the parts I've been wanting to fix up. I hate lists, but I had to make one up!
- Assemble a real suspension (Koni 8611, Richards Custom Housings, Ground Control Coilver setup, etc etc)
- Poly Bushings in all mounts, and grease fittings
- New Subframe Bushings (milled lower)
- Box in Lower Arms
- Create my own Power brace, in conjunction with a Jonnie Fraz Tension Brace
- New FLCA with QA1 bearings (roll center correction
- Extra Capacity Diff Cover
- Front Mounted Steering Cooler
- New Rear Traction Arms
- etc etc etc
Lets face it, it's a nice car, but it's an old car. Some things needed to be addressed, and now was the time to do it!
So here are some quick pics of what I've done so far :D
Jonnie Fraz Tension Brace:
http://www.codyace.com/albums/jonnie_fraz_tension_brace/IMG_6212.sized.jpg
J30 Rear Differential Cover, Extra Capacity, Finned for cooling
http://www.codyace.com/albums/album190/cover_02.sized.jpg
http://www.codyace.com/albums/album190/cover_01.sized.jpg
Ebay Rear Traction Arms
The Spherical apperas teflon lined, good enough for me! For 50 bucks, you can't go wrong :D It's a shame they coat these in RICEY/RACER Red paint. I painted the main arms and left the bearings ends alone...the'll be coverd up in the subframe anyway. I had to trim these down ¾ of an inch in order to get to the desired 7 7/8” distance or 8” distance. These things were actually longer than factory, which would provide for a terrible toe curve.
http://www.codyace.com/albums/album58/traction_01.sized.jpg
http://www.codyace.com/albums/album58/traction_02.sized.jpg
Milled Rear Subframe Bushings (As nice
as SPL parts are, aluminum is just tooo
hardcore for me!)
These installed very easily, but actually getting the bushings out of the subframe was a mofugga. Torches, sawzalls, and finesse (force) won this battle.
http://www.codyace.com/albums/rear_subframe_bushing/IMG_6289.sized.jpg
http://www.codyace.com/albums/rear_subframe_bushing/IMG_6287.sized.jpg
There will be more to come with this pig, but this is a start. Boxed arms, and custom made FLCA images to come!
Edited on: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:34 AM
Categories: codys 240, Installations